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  • #13618 Reply
    zerstorte zelle
    Participant

    Hey ZDL,
    While measuring the TP VOLTAGES:

    IEC 122.2VAC
    TP1 – 176.7
    TP2 – 7.2
    TP3 – 1.925
    TP4 – 154.8
    TP5 – o/l
    TP6 – 13 and dropping
    TP7 – 1.484
    TP8 – 168.7
    TP9 – 13 and dropping
    TP10 – 1.35
    TP11 – 132.1

    – I once measured TP5 after switching on and saw some brief voltage and then o/l.
    – The amp makes sound.

    In the interest of full disclosure, the first time I measured I was in my rehearsal space with an AGUILAR DB112NT 8 Ohm cab. While measuring heard the noise at the speaker and after plugging in a guitar ( and bass ) enjoying the sound despite the weird measurements etc. After some duration the sound cut out and r15 exploded. I shut it off quickly and it appears that no damage has been done to board. Cleaned with rubbing alcohol and brought it home. I had a 1/2watt carbon comp that measures close so used it in its place. I don’t appear to have bridged anything and reflowed all the joints I can see from the top. Im now plugging it in with an NS10 8ohm. ( i just don’t have an extension speaker suitable ) and its now making noise again, but wondering what you think of all this and what else to test. Also some of those voltages take a good 30 seconds to settle.

    thoughts?

    #13636 Reply
    brach
    Moderator

    The main thing is we need to figure out what caused R15 to explode. It could be dangerous to use the amp until we figure out what happened. If you are not 100% confident in your solder joints then please take out the board and re-solder them…it’s much better to be safe than dead…or have more components blow up. Also, try tightening your tube socket pins just to make sure everything is making good contact.
    All the current the amp uses goes through R15, so something in your amp must have been drawing a lot more current than it’s supposed to. It makes me think that something is shorted….like a bad solder joint or something.
    Are you sure that TP6 and TP9 are correct? The bias voltages on those parts of the circuit seem solid, so those test points should be higher. It concerns me that TP5 isn’t giving you a voltage…that’s pretty important to know what that voltage is. Like I said, try tightening your tube sockets, especially pins 8,4, and 9, and re-measure these voltages. Make sure you have the amp plugged into an 8 ohm load (speaker) at all times, even when you take these measurements.
    Let me know what you find.
    Good luck.
    -Brach

    #21295 Reply
    zerstorte zelle
    Participant

    Hello All,

    Back again after a while with an update. After several laps around the board over the last year (reflowing joints and checking color codes disassembling and re assembling with no avail) I reached into my toolbox and grabbed a cheap-o multimeter to run some tests the other day… AGAIN! (NYC is basically on lockdown for the foreseeable future so why not) and to my surprise all voltages metered CORRECTLY.

    As it turns out, my “good” meter was throwing a wrench in the works with some weird readings. Not sure what made the initial spark many months back but all is functioning and testing well here. Sounding great as well PS. Looking forward to putting it to good use in the future.

    I do have a suggestion for a future revision of the kit however. If you have to every take the PCB out, you end up in a scenario where you will stress (and break) the pot without some sorcery. I suggest making the 3 pads set further back into the pcb and soldering some jumper wires to the pot to make it a bit more flexible upon removal.

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